Metro State Atheists

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Why Atheists Care About YOUR Religion (by Ovablastic)

Couldn’t have said it better myself.


October 17, 2008 - Posted by | religion | , , , , , , , , , , , , ,


  1. I’m a follower of Jesus (sometimes called a Christian but that can mean SO many things).

    Anyway, I agree with you.

    Nicely done.

    Comment by Christian Beyer | October 17, 2008

  2. Hello Christian,

    Generally, I assume “Christian” to mean one believes Jesus to be the son of the Old Testament God.

    Comment by metrostateatheists | October 17, 2008

  3. Christian doesn’t “mean so many things” at all. It is simply a Jew who accepts that the savior came and redeemed humanity via vicarious redemption by human sacrifice. Although YOU may not like that definition, that’s what it is. The very fact that there are Christians who say that other Christians aren’t “real” Christians certainly says alot about the falsity of your claim.

    To the video: AMAZING and yes…she’s right.

    “Grow up or die!”-Bill Mahr, Religulous, in context, referring to all of humanity if we don’t drop out silly superstitions about the sky fairy theists call god.

    Comment by Joel | October 17, 2008

  4. No – you missed my point. It means many different things to many different people in spite of what any single definition found in Websters or Wikipedia or a theology text may say.

    Even so, your definition is only one of many ‘official’ definitions – the vicarious sacrifice was not considered dogma until Anselm in the 11th century and even today is not universally accepted among “Christians” . Believe it or not. (Or just look it up.)

    I would never claim that someone else might not be a Christian but I am hesitant to say that I am a Christian because so many Christians have misrepresented the teachings of Christ (or the Messiah or Jesus). And that’s the problem with the term – too many people claiming Jesus as Messiah and God yet ignoring what he taught about peace , fellowship and community.

    And look, it’s bad enough when people quote Sam Harris , but at least he’s not trying to be funny. Bill Maher may be just as angry as Sam but he is no funnier. That’s what happens when people start to take themselves too seriously (remember Joe Piscopo?)

    Comment by Christian Beyer | October 17, 2008

  5. I’m an atheist. In the United States citizens have freedom to practice religion or not to. Attacking religion is antithetical to the constitutional rights of Americans. All the cleavage and lipstick in the world will not change this.

    These board generalizations about religion will, and rightfully so, make religion people feel attacked. It would be much smarter to discuss specific issues e.g. the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state.

    Despite what the lady in the Myspace-angle cleavage video says, religion has been around for much longer than 2000 years, there is scientific evidence that some people are prone, genetically, to religiosity. It will always be with us. As Christopher Hitchens has pointed it, if it provides a community and social group for people it is even beneficial.

    When people talk about the atrocities done in the name of atheism (e.g. Stalin, Lenin, Pol-Pot, Mao) they are not talking about atheism as much as they are talking about anti-theism — exactly that cleavage-lady is advocating. That is not atheism, and upstanding atheists should clarify the difference.

    Comment by Craig the Atheist | October 18, 2008

  6. Nothing irritates me more when someone equates “criticizing” with “attacking”.

    Comment by Metro State Atheists | October 24, 2008

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