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Think you know the 10 Commandments? Think again.

One doesn’t have to look far when searching through the Bible’s skeleton closet to find some major inconsistencies, outright absurdity and downright cruelty.  However, even I thought I knew about the 10 Commandments.  Most people know the 10 Commandments to be as follows:

Exodus 20:2-17

ONE: ‘You shall have no other gods before Me.

TWO: ‘You shall not make for yourself a carved image–any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

THREE: ‘You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.

FOUR: ‘Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

FIVE: ‘Honor your father and your mother.

SIX: ‘You shall not murder.

SEVEN: ‘You shall not commit adultery.

EIGHT: ‘You shall not steal.

NINE: ‘You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

TEN: ‘You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.‘ (Source:

Although this list is well-known and considered the “official 10 commandments”,  nothing in the context surrounding this list ever mentions the words “Ten Commandments”.  There is a list in Exodus though that does mention this somewhat official phrase, Ten Commandments.  Although, this list will be a shock to some as it is a list that most people wouldn’t follow (because it has very little to do with morality or the workings of today’s society, some perfect being eh?).  So, without further ado, here is the ONLY list called the Ten Commandments, in the Bible:

Exodus 34: 14-27

1 Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

2 “Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.

3 “Do not make cast idols.

4 “Celebrate the Feast of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Abib, for in that month you came out of Egypt.

6 “The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.  “No one is to appear before me empty-handed.

7 “Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.

8 “Celebrate the Feast of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Feast of Ingathering at the turn of the year. [b] 23 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign LORD, the God of Israel. 24 I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the LORD your God.

9 “Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Feast remain until morning.

10 “Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the LORD your God.
“Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.”

Then the LORD said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments. (Emphases added) (Source:

What exactly is the prohibition on cooking a young goat in its mother’s milk doing on what is supposed to be the most profound moral list in all history?  Did god forget the first list? (mentioned above).  There are some similarities but they have far more striking differences; and if this god is supposed to be perfect, this shows he isn’t.  For he can’t even remember a list of ten things he is commanding to his supposed chosen people.  It seems more like it was written by an ancient Joseph Smith; or better put, it was written by insecure, men concerned chiefly with themselves and about no one else.  The rest of the Old Testament is a tribute to the old adage “history is written by the victors”.  But I digress.  Being that the real 10 commandments are laughable at best, I am not at all surprised that the early Jewish theologians claimed the first of these lists (again the first mentioned) to be the “official” 10 Commandments.  So let’s put these in 10 in the courthouses of America and see how seriously people take Judaism and Christianity.

Written by Joel

Metro State Atheists.


December 31, 2008 Posted by | Bible, Christianity, god, Metro State Atheists, Old Testament, religion, The Holy Bible | , , , , , , , , , | 18 Comments

Science In The News: Dec 30, 2008

Earthquakes on the rise at Yellowstone.

“Scientists wonder if the shaking might presage a larger event. This month’s swarm is the most intense in this area for some years, scientists said. It is centered on the east side of the Yellowstone caldera, a giant basin created in a colossal eruption some 620,000 years ago.”

Smiles come from within.

“From sneers to full-blown smiles, our facial expressions are hardwired into our genes, suggests a new study.”

Food safety and nanotechnology.

“A microscopic biological sensor that detects Salmonella bacteria in lab tests has been developed by an Agricultural Research Service (ARS) scientist and university colleagues. The sensor could be adapted to detect other foodborne pathogens as well.”

December 30, 2008 Posted by | News, Qoutes, science | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

Freedom From Religion Foundation Challenges Cherry Creek School District

Tim Baily of Humanist of Colorado is circulating the following message regarding a lawsuit filed by the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) against the Cherry Creek School district and their endorsement of the 40 Developmental Asests.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) has a very important challenge regarding the separation of church and state in the Cherry Creek School District in Denver. The lawsuit challenges the District adoption of the “40 Developmental Assets,” of which number 19 is a recommendation of a “religious community” for children. The school district is recommending that children spend at least an hour a week in a church or other religious setting.

In a document specifically written for children, the endorsement reads: “I spend time with my religion.” A poster of a praying child next to this wording is displayed in various ways. The asset appears on a master calendar at the District website and various District documents.

FFRF has uncovered a religious agenda of the “40 Developmental Assets” program (in which the Lutheran Brotherhood, which developed it, cites bible verses which inspire each “asset,” even the secular-sounding assets).

Due to a child of a plaintiff graduating, FFRF is down to a single plaintiff. We are requesting anyone having a child in the school system who supports the separation of church and state to join the suit.

If you have a child in the Cherry Creek School system (or sympathetic friends or relatives with children in the District) and you might be interested in joining our action against this establishment of religion by the school district, then please let me know. Plaintiffs must have children who use the Cherry Creek public schools.

If we are to add additional plaintiffs, they need to be added before 2009. There is no cost involved and very little time required, and you would be helping to ensure we can challenge a violation that is occurring nationwide. The Court has a protective order which keeps parent (and child) names out of the court documents and newspapers. If interested contact me ASAP

Tim Bailey 303.921.0641
Humanists of Colorado

For more detailed information, visit the Freedom From Religion Foundation

December 23, 2008 Posted by | atheism, Events, god, News, Press Release, religion | , , , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

Pictures Of Us After Sam Singleton Event

Sara (left), Joel (center), Chalmer (right)

Sara (left), Joel (center), Chalmer (right)

December 22, 2008 Posted by | Pictures | , | Leave a comment

Slaying Heritage

Slaying Heritage

Slaying Heritage

I am a woman


No history,

bequeathed by ghostly ancestors,

Abandoning origins,


amid the 22 million




through the cavernous,

Ellis Island halls

sweating human misery

They willed to me:

no stories, no customs, no heirlooms,

no words from the languages

of their births.




waves of fear fleeing hostility and bigotry


sweaping Europe



They willed to me


a handful of sepia-faded faces—









Dirty Immigrants.



by the American dream of oblivion,

they requested their pasts be cremated

along-side them.

And so it was done, in honor of their

broken backs

rendered in the melting pot—

skin worn to shoe leather.

Probed for labor fitness,








Mass processed.


at Ellis Island,

(aliens) (untrustworthy)

Indentured servants for the fat old English Man that vouchsafed them,

(Eastern European—different)


for Northern Factories.

Scurrying to his Summons:

Kykes, Hymies, Shylocks, Krauts, Jerrys….

(At least Not Chinks, banned 1862)

One more group exploited

(And Not Japs, barred 1902)


Tote that barge,and lift that bale.


Bull-penned in Factory towns

Shilled in Factory stores,


before Northern Europeans only quotas 1924,

legislated, legalized more

discrimination, detention and deportation as the norm,

the very sentiments my grandparents

tried to bury before begetting progeny.

They’d all been lured by metaphors

of streets paved with gold,

Only to find beneath their feet

Not even wooden planks,

Just shovels, mud and jumbled stones

To learn that servitude


they be the ones to

Pave them.

I want to dredge up their ashes,

And minuscule,

fragmented bones,

Festively gilding them to tie into my hair.

Ornaments and Amulets,

bearing witness to my origins.

But their inscrutable faces murmur,

Let dead relatives be.

They do not understand my need.

You are the last, they accuse,

as if my only worth lay

in the passing on of genes.

Soon enough, they sigh,

soon enough you will

also be

a handful of dusty ashes

meaningful to no one

and nobody

will ever know you were.

Buried in the Nothingness

Of the


They call America

by Riki Matthews, the Trickster

December 22, 2008 Posted by | Art, Poetry, The Trickster | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Why Aren’t You Outraged?

December 22, 2008 Posted by | Censorship, Politics | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 4 Comments

Creationism with Ricky Gervais

– Chalmer

December 21, 2008 Posted by | Bible, creationism, Humor | , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Obama Selects Rick Warren for Invocation

So, I just read an article, linked here, about how Barack Obama has selected evangelical pastor Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at his inauguration.  Now Obama is all about change, so lets take a look at some of the changes Rick Warren would like to see.

“Many Rwandans would identify themselves as Christians, but for most of them it’s just a label. Their Christian religion didn’t keep the 1994 genocide from happening, and it left horrible spiritual scars on the country. More than 800,000 people died and maybe 2 million were forced to flee the country. They have made some good progress in the last 10 years, but the only thing that will heal Rwanda’s scars is the love of Jesus Christ.” -Rick Warren, in an interview with the Women’s Missionary Union

While I disagree Warren on this, I can understand were he is coming from.  I don’t have a problem this, in and of itself.  What bugs me is that fact that said genocide is the product of a nasty little thing called intolerance.  Now, intolerance manifests itself in a lot of ugly ways, of which racism is only one.  Some people are intolerant of religion, others of certain ethnic and cultural groups, and some of sexual diversity.  However, the main culprit is always the same: intolerance.  To be anti-gay is no different than being anti-Jewish or anti-black.  Rick warren is clearly opposed to such bigotry though, seeing as he seems as disgusted with the Rwandan genocide as I am.  Or is he?

What you will find in the video above is Warren comparing gay marriage to incest, polygamy, and statutory rape.  He claims to be against gay marriage, and against altering the definition of marriage, a stance which he justifies by invoking religious tradition.  I might of missed this in my civic class, but I’m pretty sure that religious tradition, no matter how old and how many religions ascribe to it, doesn’t play a role in determining laws in America.  Warren’s stance is basically that becuase religious tradition regarding gay marriage has been intolerant all these years, we shouldn’t go changing it now.  He claims to believe in equal rights, but supports thousands of years of intolerant tradition.  That fact that same-sex marriage is a religious tradition is irrelevant, and has no bearing on the legal definition of marriage.  Warren claims this is not a Christian issue, but he does indicate that it is a religious one.  Whats the difference?  Why should me refrain from abolishing intolerance and embracing equal rights based on religious tradition?  Polygamy is and was a tradition once too.

At the beginning of this, Warren claims to be a supporter of the separation of church and state.  But, in the previous video, clearly stated that he is opposed to altering the definition of marriage based on religious tradition!  This all seems a bit inconsistent to me.  I’m pretty sure that opposing legislature based on religious traditions violates the principle of church state separation.

I have more I could say about Warren, but I’m done for now.  I’m extremely disappointed in Obama’s decision to associate himself with someone so anti-change, and pro-tradition.

– Chalmer

December 18, 2008 Posted by | Uncategorized | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 13 Comments

Differential Equations: How they relate to Calculus.

This is my first mathematics paper.  It is on how differential equations relate to calculus.  Any constructive criticism by those in the field is encouraged.  You may download it by clicking the link below. (It is a Microsoft Word document)

Differential Equations:How they relate to Calculus

by Joel Guttormson

December 16, 2008 Posted by | Metro State Atheists, science, Uncategorized | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 31 Comments

Carbene Summary

This is an essay on carbenes I wrote for a class.

Carbene Summary

December 16, 2008 Posted by | Chemistry | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment