Metro State Atheists

Promoting Science, Reason, and Secular Values

2008 Election

From Jeanette, an organizer for Denver Atheists & Freethinkers

As an individual, my own political inclinations are well-known to anyone who reads the message board, but the group as a whole is open to a diversity of people and doesn’t represent any particular political party, and as a leader of this group (as opposed to as an individual and member of the group) I’m not going to tell you all what political party or candidates you should vote for. I will urge you to consider whether your choices represent the best hope for equality, personal freedoms, and separation of church and state.

Also, I know that some of you might feel that voting is a futile act, and that no one person makes much of a difference anyway, especially when that one person isn’t part of a large voter block. In a sense this is true, but voting isn’t an individual act. It’s something that do collectively, acting in unison to shape our country.

This is something that evangelical Christians understand very well. They aren’t some enormous majority of society, they’re about 25% of the population. And that’s after a couple of decades of enormous growth that stems largely from their willingness to put effort into what they believe. They work together to such an extent that it creeps out the rest of us who are more inclined toward individuality. We wouldn’t even want to emulate their “hive mind” mentality, but if we aren’t ready to hand the country over to them, we’ll have to learn to follow their example just a little bit. At least get off the couch long enough to vote.



October 9, 2008 Posted by | News, Politics | , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Media Release: Coalition For Secular Government

Below is an e-mail we received the Coalition For Secular Government


Nearly 40% of Colorado Voters Seek to Destroy Reproductive Rights

Sedalia, Colorado / October 7, 2008

Contact: Diana Hsieh, co-author of "Amendment 48 Is Anti-Life" and founder
of the Coalition for Secular Government, or

A poll of likely voters shows strong support for Amendment 48, the ballot
measure that would grant the full legal rights of persons to fertilized
eggs.  The survey, conducted on September 28th by Rasmussen Reports with 500
likely voters, shows that 39% plan to vote for the measure, 50% to vote
against it, while 11% are unsure.  (See <>.)

Such strong support for Amendment 48 should surprise anyone familiar with
the barrage of criticism published in Colorado media in recent weeks.
Critics of the measure have warned voters of its destructive effects on
Colorado's laws if passed and enforced.  They have shown that it would usher
in a near-total ban on abortion, outlaw the birth control pill and in vitro
fertilization, and subject pregnant women to police controls.  Yet these
latest poll results are basically unchanged from a June poll, also by
Rasmussen.  (See <>.)

Diana Hsieh, founder of the Coalition for Secular Government and co-author
of "Amendment 48 Is Anti-Life," argues that the broad support for Amendment
48 is driven by a deeply-held faith pretending to be "pro-life."

The most recent Rasmussen poll showed that 41% of Colorado voters believe
that "life begins at conception."  That number explains the strong support
for Amendment 48, despite the media barrage against it.  "People who endorse
that slogan regard a fertilized egg as a new, whole person with a right to
life," Hsieh said.  "They regard the enormous sacrifices forced on real men
and women by the measure as insignificant -- or even ennobling.  Their vote
is based on faith, without regard to the real-world requirements of human
life and happiness.  It's not 'pro-life' at all."

"To effectively combat measures like Amendment 48, the whole 'pro-life'
ideology must be challenged at its root," Hsieh said.  "A mushy slogan like
'it simply goes too far' is unconvincing, even misleading.  It doesn't speak
to the fundamental dispute.  Worse, it suggests that some compromise -- like
banning most abortions -- would be acceptable."

"Instead, reproductive rights must be defended on principle, based on the
objective facts of human nature.  With regard to abortion, the fact is that
a fetus or embryo is only a potential person so long as encased within and
dependent on the woman.  Once born, the infant is a new individual person
with the right to life.  That view ought to be the basis for the laws of a
free society.  Any alternative -- any attempt to grant rights to the embryo
or fetus -- would violate the rights of pregnant women."

For a principled defense of reproductive rights, see the Coalition for
Secular Government's issue paper, "Amendment 48 Is Anti-Life: Why It Matters
That a Fertilized Egg Is Not a Person," available at
<>, particularly the section
"Personhood and the Right to Abortion," pages 10-13."

- Chalmer

October 8, 2008 Posted by | Politics, religion | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment